Saphira's future mate, There actually weren't any threads on this... Options

[James A]

I think the chances are 50/50. Because there is no evidence supporting Saphira/Greenie, or Saphira/Thorn. It's just a matter of speculation or personal preference

While I do think the chances are even, you seem to be forgetting that there is still three living male dragons - you've forgotten Shruikan. Now, he may have a lower chance than the others, but he still has a chance, and TBH, he is most deserving of a mate at this point, out of all the dragons. One hundred [plus] years of enslavement, possible torture, grief, misery and hate towards the man who bound you to him by force, instead of having a real bond. And that's all after losing his rider. Thorn has what, six or so months?

So anyone who thinks that Saphira will grant Thorn pity sex needs to think about Shruikan. And using size as an excuse doesn't count. She wanted to mate with Glaedr, and he was far older than Shruikan, and he was only about three times her size. Shruikan will be, at most, two times her size - unless Galby's messed with him, but I doubt it.

LOL. Pity sex got me there.
I agree with you. But doubt that Saphira would be keen to mate with someone whose been messed around that much and is so twisted and broken with grief, anger, confusion, and all that. His head has to be messed. I'm of the personal opinion it would be more merciful to Shruikan if he died in battle. He wouldn't have to live on in sorrow and remorse regarding what Galby forced him to do.

[RenegadeShroom]

It depends really, if he really is twisted beyond help or not. Perhaps, Eragon, Saphira and the elves can help Shruikan out of it, and if SxS happened, it would help him along even more, methinks.

LOL. Pity sex got me there.

Meh, it was the first word combo that popped into my head. Although now that I think about it..

[James A]

It depends really, if he really is twisted beyond help or not. Perhaps, Eragon, Saphira and the elves can help Shruikan out of it, and if SxS happened, it would help him along even more, methinks.

LOL. Pity sex got me there.

Meh, it was the first word combo that popped into my head. Although now that I think about it..

Yeah your right. I just suspect he would be.

hahahaha well it was a very appropriate phrase ... well not actually appropriate anyway

True, it would help,but do you think Saphira would do that for him? She's pretty proud

[RenegadeShroom]

I suspect that dragons look for different values in mates than humans. If she falls for him, then yeah, she might. Heck, they might just go, "Hey, he's strong and smart, that'll be good for babies, let's make some!"

There's too many variables, TBH.

[James A]

I suspect that dragons look for different values in mates than humans. If she falls for him, then yeah, she might. Heck, they might just go, "Hey, he's strong and smart, that'll be good for babies, let's make some!"

There's too many variables, TBH.

Hahahaha your commentaries are rather good.
Your right of course, but I think that would ruin the book for to many fans so CP wouldn't do it if you know what i mean. It's not a case of whether or not it would work but whether CP would actually write the book that way

[loveistheultimat...]

Come on guys. If the last rider is going be Araya.... can we all at least agree that that is the most likely next rider? (I'm not saying other people wouldn't make cooler riders than her just saying it's the most likely choice). If she is green's rider then obviously green and Saphira will mate due to Eragon's feelings towards Araya and her towards him. If you want me to explain Eragon's and Araya's relationship just ask or go to the thread about the next rider. Didn't think I should post it here though. But the most important thing is that since we learned in one of the earlier books that how the rider or dragon feels about someone effects the other's opinion, it's safe to say that Araya and Eragon will pair up and so will their dragons

Hmm, I cannot agree with you about some of this.
If Arya is the next rider, Just because Eragon loves Arya doesn't mean that Saphira will mate with Aryas dragon. It would make a pretty picture I'm sure, but that doesn't mean that Saphira HAS to mate with Aryas dragon.
Yes the dragon and rider have to approve of each others choice in mates, because of the bond that they share, because you cannot have your dragon hating the woman/man that you want to be with right, and vise versa. But I suppose it would make sense for Arya to be the next rider, and for Saphira to mate with him. But what I am saying is that it doesnt have to be that way just because Eragon is in love with Arya.

haha fair enough. Fair enough. But i do think that is the way it will work out, even though like you said loveistheultimate that it doesn't have to be that way. It just seems to me that if it works out differently than that, then CP would have wasted a lot of plot development on nothing.

Yes, I kind of agree with you on that one! It would make a nice ending I suppose! It would make sense also. But I also think that that would be a bit disappointing because its so predictable!

As for "pity sex", Saphira is not human, I think some of you are forgetting this.

[RenegadeShroom]

I'm certainly not forgetting it. I'm just poiting it out to those people who think that Thorn will get 'pity sex'. Sorry if it seemed like I thought that Shruikan was gonna get some.

As long as ExA happens, he didn't really waste that plot developement, especially if SxG happens. Although I do suspect that CP will have Greeni be Saphira's mate, I'm still rooting for Shruikan.

[gameboy3301]

It does seem that Saphira would mate with the green dragon if Arya becomes the rider because the bond would bring the riders together also. But Paolini's plot twist have given me enough headaches so far, and I don't see him doing the expected.

[James A]

It does seem that Saphira would mate with the green dragon if Arya becomes the rider because the bond would bring the riders together also. But Paolini's plot twist have given me enough headaches so far, and I don't see him doing the expected.

That's what I'm hoping for

[loveistheultimat...]

After thinking about it for a while, I believe that Thorn is going to be her mate, in the end, well unless Murtagh and Thorn die, which I seriously hope they do not.
And I seriously don't think that the last Egg in Galbatorix's hands is even a green egg. We do not know.

[Deej]

After thinking about it for a while, I believe that Thorn is going to be her mate, in the end, well unless Murtagh and Thorn die, which I seriously hope they do not.
And I seriously don't think that the last Egg in Galbatorix's hands is even a green egg. We do not know.

I have my doubts to Thorn being her mate, for a few reasons I've noted before (In the "Thorn's mating problem" forum). Basically, he has been forcibly matured faster than he normally would have; somewhat similarly to Elva really. For him to mate, while still at a mentally young age could prove psychologically scarring or he might not even be up to/ready for a mate. Unless it's possible to "de-mature" him to the proper biological age matching his mental one, it's unlikely he'll mate.

As for the green egg well, CP said the fourth book will have a green dragon looking to the right. Each book has had a major dragon of sorts and; in my opinion the reason it was chosen for the book 4 cover is he originally planned it to be on book 3 (one book featuring each of the eggs Galby has), but since it was extended he figured Glaedr could be on. But that's a bit off subject. My point is, since each book has featured a major dragon at some point, unless a wild dragon, or one in hiding, is revealed, we can assume that it will instead be the third and final egg dragon featured on the cover.





On a bit of an off topic note; speaking of covers, if CP made a 5th book like he alluded too, wouldn't Shruikan be an awesome cover for it? Or an alternate cover to book 4

[Feladrin]

Yea he may be at a mentally young age, but he could also be very wise. Dragons are usually like that, but I guess we cannot know since we have no idea what's going trough Thorn's head.
I, for one, would like if Saphira will chose Thorn as a mate because they would make a pretty interesting couple, after all that fighting and rivalry to become closer to each other.

[Deej]

Yea he may be at a mentally young age, but he could also be very wise. Dragons are usually like that, but I guess we cannot know since we have no idea what's going trough Thorn's head.
I, for one, would like if Saphira will chose Thorn as a mate because they would make a pretty interesting couple, after all that fighting and rivalry to become closer to each other.

If he was very wise, Saphira wouldn't be calling him "Stunted-Thoughts" though. We might not have seen into his head, but she has, and it seems to match up with him still be younger and naive than he appears.

[Sinitar]

In a way I hope she will chose Thorn despite everything that happened to him.Saphira is pretty young also judging by human standards, so I guess they would make a nice pair.The problem with greenie is, he is still in the egg, and god knows when CP plans to let that egg hatch.We will also have to wait 6 months after that for him to be sexually mature.By then, I think Galbatorix would be dead, and I find it interesting if Saphira chooses a mate during their fight against the empire.

[Feladrin]

Yea he may be at a mentally young age, but he could also be very wise. Dragons are usually like that, but I guess we cannot know since we have no idea what's going trough Thorn's head.
I, for one, would like if Saphira will chose Thorn as a mate because they would make a pretty interesting couple, after all that fighting and rivalry to become closer to each other.

If he was very wise, Saphira wouldn't be calling him "Stunted-Thoughts" though. We might not have seen into his head, but she has, and it seems to match up with him still be younger and naive than he appears.

You are right but I don't remember her speaking to him or something like that. Probably she called him that way because she noticed that he was somehow confused about this whole situation, and she only assumed that.

This post has been edited by Feladrin: Nov 8 2009, 05:28 AM