double agent in the varden?/``, someone cud possibly be feedin information to galby Options

[tsourav]

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someone from varden maybe...cud be possibly a spy for galby
look at the possibilities
galby cudnt hav let only the twins to be his spies
the twins are arrogant in nature
they wer bound to do somethin wrong
so maybe galby sent another to infiltrate the varden's secrets and pass on to galby>>
what r ur opinions?

[droolingchicken]

As of right now King Orrin seems to be the most plausible idea for reasons previously stated. However, CP has given no further evidence of a traitor so i highly doubt he will add that into the mix of an already complicated plot for book 4.

[Tsukyo]

There are always spys planted in any opposing group. With the Varden not checking for duplicity it is inevitable. The real question is are there any relevant traitors? A common soldier would not be very useful. A general, or someone such as Fadawar, Jormundur, or Orrin would be a shock though. Even a personal spellcaster for Orrin or even Trianna would be a notable spy(although unlikely because they could have done more damage by killing their respective leaders). This would undermine the efforts of the Varden, but it doesn't seem as if the tables have been turned on the Varden since the twins, so I doubt it. There haven't been any major plans by the Varden where they were the Empire's forces surprised them, so it seems unlikely that any higher up is a traitor, and the common soldiers just seem irrelvant because there isn't much they can do.

[Orik Thunderfist...]

i think that one of nasuda's(spelling) bodyguard be one of the the spies. maybe galby found a way 2 overcome the binds in the AL. so that 1 of them can tell lies in it

[Murthorn]

i think that one of nasuda's(spelling) bodyguard be one of the the spies. maybe galby found a way 2 overcome the binds in the AL. so that 1 of them can tell lies in it

It was made with the language that you could not lie, so I don't think that anyone could change it.

Well, maybe if they knew the true name of it.

[droolingchicken]

Why do you insist upon there being a spy or traitor? If there was the Varden would've been like destroyed at Feinster. CP already had a traitor, or traitors, and will probably be happy with just having the one pair

[bookwormgirl]

Why do you insist upon there being a spy or traitor? If there was the Varden would've been like destroyed at Feinster. CP already had a traitor, or traitors, and will probably be happy with just having the one pair

If I were Galbatorix, I would not be content with only one set of spies among the Varden. I would want more than one, in case one fails. Galbatorix may also want the spies to gather information only, and not destroy the Varden. A man like Galbatorix would probably be paranoid enough to want oversee the destruction of the Varden personally, because he believes it would fail otherwise.

[Jm33]

Why do you insist upon there being a spy or traitor? If there was the Varden would've been like destroyed at Feinster. CP already had a traitor, or traitors, and will probably be happy with just having the one pair

If I were Galbatorix, I would not be content with only one set of spies among the Varden. I would want more than one, in case one fails. Galbatorix may also want the spies to gather information only, and not destroy the Varden. A man like Galbatorix would probably be paranoid enough to want oversee the destruction of the Varden personally, because he believes it would fail otherwise.

I have a feeling that if there is another spy, it's somebody that we see often, but doesn't have a big role in the story. That's usually what authors do. What do you think?

[Murthorn]

Why do you insist upon there being a spy or traitor? If there was the Varden would've been like destroyed at Feinster. CP already had a traitor, or traitors, and will probably be happy with just having the one pair

It just wouldn't be realistic if there was no way of Galbatorix to obtain the Varden's vital information. You don't have to be the greatest leader to know that if you are able to predict the enemies plans, it is much easier to devise defenses for it.

This post has been edited by Murthorn: Jul 11 2009, 10:16 PM

[Fantasia]

Why do you insist upon there being a spy or traitor? If there was the Varden would've been like destroyed at Feinster. CP already had a traitor, or traitors, and will probably be happy with just having the one pair

Insist upon there being spies and traitors because Morzan had his "Black Hand" and Galbatorix took the idea from Morzan. It would be foolish for a King who is at war with almost all of Alagaesia to not have spies or traitors amongst enemy territory. So far we had the Twins, a spy caught by Elva, and announced there was even more within Surda, so with that in mind; then yes there is more traitors and spies.

[Princehenry3rd]

I don't know if anyone has brought this up, but wouldn't a person from the Varden's Council of Elders be a posibility to being a double agent? I mean the Council Members are Sabrae, Jörmundur, Umérth, Falberd and Elessari. When you subtract Jörmundur from the group, I don't know about anyone else, but the rest could be a double agent. When I read their description about them in Eldest, I got a vibe that they are all untrustworthy besides Jörmundur. I mean they all wanted to control Nasuada, so they could kinda control the Varden, but Ajihad had taught her how to lead, so the Council of Elders couldn't control her. I would like to read your thoughts about it.

-Princehenry3rd

[Fantasia]

Council of Elders is a good possibility, even thought Nasuada has control over the Varden; she still has to placate Elders, so they have information from her regarding her plans. It could also be that have desire to control Varden for its own downfall, all in all very good thought.

[Murthorn]

I don't think it will be someone from the council. They were probably just trying to usurp control of the Varden for themselves.