Who will be the Next Rider? III, The never ending discussion continues Options

[maxofox]

Why hello there, the last thread became rather long, and the poll has become out dated and is of little use when looking to see a true reflection of where opinion lie on this topic as it is due to change over the course of time. The last thread (threadII) can be found here and can be view at your liesure. While this thread is up and running I'll try to maintain a list of known facts that are relevant to the last egg and it's rider, and if you could help me out by posting or pming any missing facts it would be apreciated.

List of Known facts
1) The last egg is male
2) The last egg is green
3) The last egg is currently believed to be in the possession of the king (you all must be mad if you think I'm gunna try and spell that)
6)The Rider will be someone who has appeared in "the first books" (could be interpreted different ways)
5)The Rider will have a "logical inevitability" but also might "surprise some people".
Those quotes are not exact and if they are wrong, someone please correct me.


This post has been edited by maxofox: Jun 27 2009, 08:16 PM

[Brisingr Shade]

Why hello there, the last thread became rather long, and the poll has become out dated and is of little use when looking to see a true reflection of where opinion lie on this topic as it is due to change over the course of time. The last thread (threadII) can be found here and can be view at your liesure. While this thread is up and running I'll try to maintain a list of known facts that are relevant to the last egg and it's rider, and if you could help me out by posting or pming any missing facts it would be apreciated.

List of Known facts
1) The last egg is male
2) The last egg is green
3) The last egg is currently believed to be in the possession of the king (you all must be mad if you think I'm gunna try and spell that)
4)(reserved)

If you thought the last one was long...the first topic was around 140 pages...

Anyway, here are some more things that CP said about the green egg.
-The Rider will be someone who has appeared in "the first books" (could be interpreted different ways)
-The Rider will have a "logical inevitability" but also might "surprise some people".
Those quotes are not exact and if they are wrong, someone please correct me.

I think the third Rider will be Arya.
-She is already experienced in fighting and the AL. She won't need as much training as a less experienced Rider. Not only is this good for the Varden, it's also good for the author, because he doesn't have to write repetitive training scenes that will mirror Eragon's training in Eldest.
-Arya fits all of CP's statements.
-It would make Arya and Eragon equals, which CP might want to do if he wants to have them fall in love.
-Finally, by process of elimination because there are problems with every other viable candidate: Roran - would outlive his wife and child because he'd be immortal, Nasuada - hates magic, Elva - young and inexperienced, also cruel and manipulative, etc.

^ That is all assuming the egg hatches during the war. If it hatches afterwards, more people are possible, like Elva. I think it will hatch during the war because the green dragon will be on the cover of book IV, and it doesn't make sense to have it on the cover if it only hatches at the very end of the story.

[imbobbie]

Why hello there, the last thread became rather long, and the poll has become out dated and is of little use when looking to see a true reflection of where opinion lie on this topic as it is due to change over the course of time. The last thread (threadII) can be found here and can be view at your liesure. While this thread is up and running I'll try to maintain a list of known facts that are relevant to the last egg and it's rider, and if you could help me out by posting or pming any missing facts it would be apreciated.

List of Known facts
1) The last egg is male
2) The last egg is green
3) The last egg is currently believed to be in the possession of the king (you all must be mad if you think I'm gunna try and spell that)
4)(reserved)

If you thought the last one was long...the first topic was around 140 pages...

Anyway, here are some more things that CP said about the green egg.
-The Rider will be someone who has appeared in "the first books" (could be interpreted different ways)
-The Rider will have a "logical inevitability" but also might "surprise some people".
Those quotes are not exact and if they are wrong, someone please correct me.

I think the third Rider will be Arya.
-She is already experienced in fighting and the AL. She won't need as much training as a less experienced Rider. Not only is this good for the Varden, it's also good for the author, because he doesn't have to write repetitive training scenes that will mirror Eragon's training in Eldest.
-Arya fits all of CP's statements.
-It would make Arya and Eragon equals, which CP might want to do if he wants to have them fall in love.
-Finally, by process of elimination because there are problems with every other viable candidate: Roran - would outlive his wife and child because he'd be immortal, Nasuada - hates magic, Elva - young and inexperienced, also cruel and manipulative, etc.

^ That is all assuming the egg hatches during the war. If it hatches afterwards, more people are possible, like Elva. I think it will hatch during the war because the green dragon will be on the cover of book IV, and it doesn't make sense to have it on the cover if it only hatches at the very end of the story.

I call your "arya will be the next rider" and raise you "eragon will have to teach her the stuff only riders and dragons know but thats about it".

[Tsukyo]

Wow, we're gonna be on the "Who will be the Next Rider X" by the time the book comes out.

Sigh, there really aren't any stones that have not gone unturned for this topic. The first topic was over 140 pages, the second was 67. Thats over 200 pages of discussion, and everything points to Arya. If the egg hatches before the war it has to be her, since she will be the only rider who would be of any use(by this I mean not a piece just waiting to be recaptured by Murtagh). If by some chance it does hatch after the war(then it will be nothing but a plot wrapper) then it could be anyone who fits the requirements laid down by CP.

There really is not a lot left to say.

[maxofox]

Wow, we're gonna be on the "Who will be the Next Rider X" by the time the book comes out.

Sigh, there really aren't any stones that have not gone unturned for this topic. The first topic was over 140 pages, the second was 67. Thats over 200 pages of discussion, and everything points to Arya. If the egg hatches before the war it has to be her, since she will be the only rider who would be of any use(by this I mean not a piece just waiting to be recaptured by Murtagh). If by some chance it does hatch after the war(then it will be nothing but a plot wrapper) then it could be anyone who fits the requirements laid down by CP.

There really is not a lot left to say.

For some of it may seem a bit repetive, though with the series of interviews they are doing things may change over the course of the coming months. Plus newer people will fall into the disscussion as well.

I believe CP said around 18 months had passed from begging of Eragon to end of brisngr. So assuming 3 months a book, was clearly around 3 months for Eragon. Assuming that the dragon should be good to go assuming it hatches at the begging of the book. It takes what, like six months for dragons to breath fire, less for them to be able to participate in combat.

200 pages isn't that bad, over on the ASoIF boards theres a continueing thread somewhere near 500 pages.

[TSC BlackJack]

They really need Forum just for the next rider. I dont care what another Forums has, 200 pages is way too much, and yes it all is pointing directly at Arya. So basically i see those 200 pages of "discussion" a bunch of nonsense.

Basically Arya is my pick. Its obvious.

[Tsukyo]

maxofox, did you mean six months a book? And I am not so much worried about the dragon being ready. The dragon just needs 4-6 months, which is possible. Anyone other than Arya(and there are no other elves that qualify) would not be able to train at the absurd pace that Eragon learned at. The speed of Eragon's training was remarkable, and noted as such. For another to duplicate it would make it seem common. Besides the fact that having to go through rider training for Arya would not be repetitive, since she knows the basics Eragon spent time learning. With Arya's training, we would see some of the specifics(things that there were few described. Note how few real "secrets of the riders" we actually know), and it would give us more opportunity to see dragon training with the green dragon.

[maxofox]

I got you, you have the right of it. I actualy have to agree with every single statement in your post.

[gaderchi7]

Anyone remember the women from Brisingr? Eragon sees them getting their fortunes told by Angela and Eragon gives them each a blessing. It doesn't say much about them but there is a big possibility of them playing a role in the fourth book. Maybe one of them could be the next rider.

[cartman]

It will be Roran: why else would Eragon get him to practise magic?

[Murthorn]

It will be Roran: why else would Eragon get him to practise magic?

It could emphasize the difference between Eragon and Roran. Eragon's power comes from magic while Roran's is only through strength and tactics.

[Brisingr Shade]

Anyone remember the women from Brisingr? Eragon sees them getting their fortunes told by Angela and Eragon gives them each a blessing. It doesn't say much about them but there is a big possibility of them playing a role in the fourth book. Maybe one of them could be the next rider.

They were not in the other two books, so neither of them can be the Rider. Besides, we know almost nothing about these characters. CP will have to explain their entire past and personality.

It will be Roran: why else would Eragon get him to practise magic?

To emphasize that Roran is just an ordinary, average guy. Notice that every time he tries to use magic, he fails. This is to underline the fact that he does all his amazing feats: killing 193 men, wrestling an Urgal, taking 50 lashes without magic. He is just a normal, mortal human being. If Roran could use magic, he could easily kill those soldiers by using death words. He is inspiring to the Varden because they see that this amazing stuff can be accomplished by an ordinary foot soldier. So Roran won't be using magic any time soon.

[LFC LEGION]

It will be Roran: why else would Eragon get him to practise magic?

It could emphasize the difference between Eragon and Roran. Eragon's power comes from magic while Roran's is only through strength and tactics.

It Could be Roran but i doubt it as has been said about 1,000,000 times he would'nt want to outlive Katrina so the most likely charecter is Arya or naby Elva (though it would be cool if it was Angela) but as I allways say I could be wrong. BTW Eragons power comes from skill aswell as magic.

P.S. And CP makes Roran a standing joke in my opinion with the "look he's so cool he can kill over 190 people without dieing" thing and the "he can wrestle an Urgal and win" when in a real fight all the Urgal had to do is put his arm behind his back and toss Roran off or flick his head back and gore him with his huge horns.

(im gona get riped into by the Roran fans now arn't I)

Sorry if im off topic.

This post has been edited by LFC LEGION: Jun 28 2009, 08:52 AM

[stevenj]

i stll think that the new rider will at least be an elf, if not arya. This is mainly because at the monent we have galby, murtagh, and eragon, all humans. This is a little uneven considering that elfs were the first race to enter the pact with the dragons. also a human would have to go through lots of training which would just repeat all of eldest for no reason and take up to much time, so wat we need for the rider to be of any use is an elf thats already trained in magic and combat, this way we only have to wate for the dragon to age and become a suitable size for combat. Why i think that it is arya is because all the current riders are male.

[Murthorn]

BTW Eragons power comes from skill aswell as magic.

Yes, Eragon does have skill but when he is looked up to by normal men within the book, they do not see him as a soldier or a swordsman but as a rider, who are renowned for using magic.