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Posted 07 November 2009 - 11:57 PM

i figure im a pretty descent writer. i love how people write these theories. so im going to try. but mates, im pretty busy, so these might come rarely...

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chapter one:

he stood alone in the swirling darkness, only one word echoing in his mind, a lament, a mournful keen. Alone! it screamed, over and over until he couldn't bear it any more. he raised his arms as if to defend his head. just as the darkness seemed to lunge unto him.

>end dream<

eragon awoke. sweat drenched his sheets and shimmered off his skin. the canvas above him gave in little morning light, he felt as if he was soffocating (sp?). he pulled his knees up to his chin and rocked gently. it didn't help. he opened the flap to his tent and breathed in the musky air. he caught another scent, fresher, more familiar. it smelt like crushed pine needles. eragon immediately knew who it was. arya came into view with saphira by her side, his breath caught at the sight of them. he then noticed that arya was barely walking, more like dragging herself by sheer will power, her eyes were puffy. and she still wore her blood stained armour. sorrow flooded his mind at her pain. she looked up at him, and gave a weak smile. she fell on her hands and knees a hundred yards from eragon's tent. then fell limply to the floor.

'little one!' saphira roared. eragon was already by her side, he picked her up gently. her eyes flickered open, she whispered something that only eragon could hear. 'i just need sleep eragon, just sleep.'

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 04:44 AM

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Posted 08 November 2009 - 06:56 AM

QUOTE (elvaiscool @ Nov 7 2009, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i figure im a pretty descent writer. i love how people write these theories. so im going to try. but mates, im pretty busy, so these might come rarely...

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Chapter one:

He stood alone in the swirling darkness, only one word echoing in his mind. A lament, a mournful keen. "Alone!" it screamed, over and over until he couldn't bear it any more. He raised his arms as if to defend his head. Just as the darkness seemed to lunge into him.

>end dream<

Eragon awoke. sweat drenching his sheets and shimmering off his skin. the canvas above him gave in little morning light, he felt as if he was suffocating (sp?). He pulled his knees up to his chin and rocked gently. It didn't help. He opened the flap to his tent and breathed in the musky air. He caught another scent, fresher, more familiar. It smelt like crushed pine needles. Eragon immediately knew who it was. Arya came into view with Saphira by her side, his breath caught at the sight of them. He then noticed that Arya was barely walking, more like dragging herself by sheer will power. Her eyes were puffy, and she still wore her blood stained armour. Sorrow flooded his mind at her pain. She looked up at him, and gave a weak smile. She fell on her hands and knees a hundred yards from Eragon's tent, then fell limply to the floor.

'Little one!' Saphira roared. Eragon was already by her side. He picked her up gently. Her eyes flickered open, and she whispered something that only Eragon could hear. 'I just need sleep Eragon, just sleep.'



Haha.'Tis an original beginning,but you really need some improvement.Increase the length of your chapters.Use capitalization,and also add emotions and description.I've pointed all the mistakes that I could see hurriedly.I suggest you read around,or ask advice from the best authors around.One of them is my friend,Eragon S Bromsson.He's a very nice person and he'll definitely help you.I'm not the best here,but people like my story,so you could ask me as well if you want.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 01:05 AM

QUOTE (Dempton @ Nov 8 2009, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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i figure im a pretty descent writer. i love how people write these theories. so im going to try. but mates, im pretty busy, so these might come rarely...

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Chapter one:

He stood alone in the swirling darkness, only one word echoing in his mind. A lament, a mournful keen. "Alone!" it screamed, over and over until he couldn't bear it any more. He raised his arms as if to defend his head. Just as the darkness seemed to lunge into him.

>end dream<

Eragon awoke. sweat drenching his sheets and shimmering off his skin. the canvas above him gave in little morning light, he felt as if he was suffocating (sp?). He pulled his knees up to his chin and rocked gently. It didn't help. He opened the flap to his tent and breathed in the musky air. He caught another scent, fresher, more familiar. It smelt like crushed pine needles. Eragon immediately knew who it was. Arya came into view with Saphira by her side, his breath caught at the sight of them. He then noticed that Arya was barely walking, more like dragging herself by sheer will power. Her eyes were puffy, and she still wore her blood stained armour. Sorrow flooded his mind at her pain. She looked up at him, and gave a weak smile. She fell on her hands and knees a hundred yards from Eragon's tent, then fell limply to the floor.

'Little one!' Saphira roared. Eragon was already by her side. He picked her up gently. Her eyes flickered open, and she whispered something that only Eragon could hear. 'I just need sleep Eragon, just sleep.'



Haha.'Tis an original beginning,but you really need some improvement.Increase the length of your chapters.Use capitalization,and also add emotions and description.I've pointed all the mistakes that I could see hurriedly.I suggest you read around,or ask advice from the best authors around.One of them is my friend,Eragon S Bromsson.He's a very nice person and he'll definitely help you.I'm not the best here,but people like my story,so you could ask me as well if you want.
Ohh, sorry about the typos. ).gif this is only half of chapter one. thanks for the compliments ).gif
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Posted 09 November 2009 - 01:26 AM

Continued chapter one:

Eragon sought out Angela's mind, he found it in less than three minutes, she was on the other side of Feinster- 'Help!' he thundered 'Arya's fainted, please help' his mind emanated deep concern and helplessness (sp?). He could feel her start to run. Eragon tore open the entrance flap to his tent and laid her gently on his cot, Angela arrived minutes later. Eragon relayed what happened to Arya, Angela smiled and said, ' Eragon, she told you what she needed, just let her sleep.' She said something about rabbits as she exited the tent. His ears turned scarlet at missing that slight part of how she fainted. He could hear Saphira's grating laugh 'Oh, little one' she said as he emerged from the tent, she enclosed him in her saphire wing as he sat down beside her.

* (hours later)

Eragon dared not move Arya in case she awoke, instead he called on Farica to clean her up, the smell of gore was becoming too much for eragon to bear/ bare (sp?). Eragon put Arya into a sleeping trance as he exited so she would not wake up as the water touched her skin. So he made his way to her tent to get her some clothes.


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Posted 09 November 2009 - 01:26 AM

Hmm.I would say there's something wrong with your keyboard or something.Your welcome for the compliments.Watch out for typos in the future.People get annoyed with too much of them.

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Posted 09 November 2009 - 02:16 AM

Jaja

Jajaja

JAJAJAJAJA

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

This is so funy...

Keep on going man...

Let the randomness roll...

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 12:30 AM

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Jaja

Jajaja

JAJAJAJAJA

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

This is so funy...

Keep on going man...

Let the randomness roll...

Dave


Can you please tell me if im supposed to be offended by that? if not, explain why you said it.
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 01:00 AM

Okay where do I start? Ah simple things first. So try and run a spell checker or grammar check before you post it at the bare minimum. It would also be a good idea to format the story properly.

IE. Your first chapter would look like this (I'm going to add a few emotions and things to it to make it seem a bit more realistic as well)

Chapter One:


He stood alone in the swirling darkness, only one word echoing in his mind. It was a lament, a mournful keen. Alone! The word repeated over and over until it threatened to drive Eragon mad. He raised his arms as if to defend himself just as the darkness seemed to lunge at him. (How did you go from Alone! to lunging at him? o.o)

>end dream<

Eragon awoke with a startled expression. Sweat drenched him and shimmed on his skin. The canvas above him allowed a bit of the morning light to seep through. He felt as if he were suffocating inside the tent. He pulled his knees up to his chin and rocked gently, attempting to forget his nightmare.

He thrust open his tent and breathed the musky air of Feinster. In addition to the expected smell he also noticed another, the scent of crushed pine needles. He immediately recognized it as the signature scent of Arya. To his surprise Saphira was walking alongside Arya toward his tent.

His breath caught as he saw the condition Arya was in; she still wore he bloodstained armor from the battle and he noticed that she was barely walking, as if the only thing that was moving her was her own determination.

Eragon saw her look up and give him a small smile, he struggled to return the gesture despite his shock and anger at her condition. Just before she reached him she fell on her hands and knees, unable to continue any further. She quickly fell the remaining distance to the floor and Eragon immediately ran up to her, worry dominating his face.

Do you know what's wrong with her? he heard Saphira ask in his mind.

As if in answer Arya look up at Eragon. In a barely audible voice she whispered, "I just need sleep, Eragon. Just sleep." Eragon carefully scooped the elf up in his arms and walked back into his tent; Saphira curled up outside and hissed at anyone who dared approach.

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Okay and upon reading the second half of the chapter I would advise you to think a bit about the characters. Would Eragon really go to Farica or Angela for help with Arya? Perhaps you think differently but from my point of view he would do his best to assist her in any way possible, without exposing her condition to others simply as a matter of courtesy.

Just a little tip on the character development: It's always exciting to read a new story with a new perspective on how the characters should act, but remember that if you are writing a book 4 then you are adding on to the three book already written by CP. As such it would be a good idea (in my opinion) to go ahead and start out with characters like the ones he developed, and then mold their personalities into what you desire. It can be a little bit confusing at first, it took me a few tries myself.

I could say a lot more, but I'll let you update a few more times before I go and really critique you.

-HBomb

PS: If I appear harsh it is not my intention. I am a very bold person, and I don't sugarcoat what I say to people.

EDIT: This isn't in the wrong section, but your title is a bit misleading. Your 'theory' for book 4 appears to be a fanfic so I'd advise you create a title for your book if you plan on writing one ).gif

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My Book IV: Nexus. And my other Book IV: Babylon.

Before starting your own fanfic please read this, it should really help you out.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 01:08 AM

QUOTE (elvaiscool @ Nov 11 2009, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (DaveO9 @ Nov 9 2009, 02:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Jaja

Jajaja

JAJAJAJAJA

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

This is so funy...

Keep on going man...

Let the randomness roll...

Dave


Can you please tell me if im supposed to be offended by that? if not, explain why you said it.

I'm thinking that you are... and if you didn't get my previous post, I'm sorry.
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 01:15 AM

Oh a good start but like others said, make sure about your spellings. Also, use proper punctuation and make your chapter a bit longer. That's all I can say for now.

I'm gonna keep an eye on this one though. welcome.gif

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 04:47 AM

QUOTE (HBomb @ Nov 11 2009, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay where do I start? Ah simple things first. So try and run a spell checker or grammar check before you post it at the bare minimum. It would also be a good idea to format the story properly.

IE. Your first chapter would look like this (I'm going to add a few emotions and things to it to make it seem a bit more realistic as well)

Chapter One:


He stood alone in the swirling darkness, only one word echoing in his mind. It was a lament, a mournful keen. Alone! The word repeated over and over until it threatened to drive Eragon mad. He raised his arms as if to defend himself just as the darkness seemed to lunge at him. (How did you go from Alone! to lunging at him? o.o)

>end dream<

Eragon awoke with a startled expression. Sweat drenched him and shimmed on his skin. The canvas above him allowed a bit of the morning light to seep through. He felt as if he were suffocating inside the tent. He pulled his knees up to his chin and rocked gently, attempting to forget his nightmare.

He thrust open his tent and breathed the musky air of Feinster. In addition to the expected smell he also noticed another, the scent of crushed pine needles. He immediately recognized it as the signature scent of Arya. To his surprise Saphira was walking alongside Arya toward his tent.

His breath caught as he saw the condition Arya was in; she still wore he bloodstained armor from the battle and he noticed that she was barely walking, as if the only thing that was moving her was her own determination.

Eragon saw her look up and give him a small smile, he struggled to return the gesture despite his shock and anger at her condition. Just before she reached him she fell on her hands and knees, unable to continue any further. She quickly fell the remaining distance to the floor and Eragon immediately ran up to her, worry dominating his face.

Do you know what's wrong with her? he heard Saphira ask in his mind.

As if in answer Arya look up at Eragon. In a barely audible voice she whispered, "I just need sleep, Eragon. Just sleep." Eragon carefully scooped the elf up in his arms and walked back into his tent; Saphira curled up outside and hissed at anyone who dared approach.

----

Okay and upon reading the second half of the chapter I would advise you to think a bit about the characters. Would Eragon really go to Farica or Angela for help with Arya? Perhaps you think differently but from my point of view he would do his best to assist her in any way possible, without exposing her condition to others simply as a matter of courtesy.

Just a little tip on the character development: It's always exciting to read a new story with a new perspective on how the characters should act, but remember that if you are writing a book 4 then you are adding on to the three book already written by CP. As such it would be a good idea (in my opinion) to go ahead and start out with characters like the ones he developed, and then mold their personalities into what you desire. It can be a little bit confusing at first, it took me a few tries myself.

I could say a lot more, but I'll let you update a few more times before I go and really critique you.

-HBomb

PS: If I appear harsh it is not my intention. I am a very bold person, and I don't sugarcoat what I say to people.

EDIT: This isn't in the wrong section, but your title is a bit misleading. Your 'theory' for book 4 appears to be a fanfic so I'd advise you create a title for your book if you plan on writing one ).gif

I thank you. I will try to format and check the posts. I do guess that is actually true, the thing about Angela and Farica, and I my last two posts did seem formal on re- reading! Thankyou again!
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Posted 11 November 2009 - 05:32 AM

Chapter two:

Eragon heard foot steps across from his tent, Roran’s pungent smell wafted over Eragon in waves. It made his eyes water. Roran’s conscience still was weak and Eragon was planning to start tutoring him about how to properly guard his mind, this was going to be a hard day. Roran swept the tent flap open and strode inside, Eragon gestured towards the stool that he had made earlier, Roran sat across from him. Roran has a stubborn mind. Thought Eragon, this will be hard.
Patience, little one. Thought Saphira, she sent waves of calmness through their connection; I know you can do it.
Thank you, Saphira. Thought Eragon, gratefulness flowed through again, surging like a wave against Saphira’s calm intellect. With that she withdrew from his mind, a deer bringing her attention into scope.

Eragon looked at Roran, Roran looked back. An awkward silence pervaded the tent; it seemed to Eragon, that it lasted forever.
‘Today, we will start again at sensing someone else’s mind, and block that mind eventually. I am going to enter your mind. Try hard to block me, Roran. I know you know how to do it’ Eragon sent a tendril of thought to Roran. He encountered a solid wall, this time it was based on Roran’s unborn child, Eragon tried his best to break the barriers that circled his cousin’s mind, and he tried squirming underneath, to no avail. This was a new league to Eragon. Not higher than him but nearly, with more training, better. Roran’s concentration wavered when Eragon circled his conscience. Eragon fit his mind into the crack and tore at Roran’s barriers like a feral dog. When Eragon opened his eyes Roran was sweaty from the concentration he used. Eragon tutored him for hours, teaching him how to “think without thinking” as Oromis had put it, he even taught Roran a poem that was easy to concentrate on. Roran did not ask questions like Eragon had. He listened, learned, and then used that knowledge to the best of his abilities. Pride filled Eragon’s mind at this, just knowing he could teach gave him some hope that he would one day be worthy to fill his master’s place. Remembering his master gave Eragon strength, but when it was not strength, it was more the shadow of loneliness that seeped through his thoughts.
Leave those thoughts be, Eragon! They only make us weaker! Remember the good things we had with him. The bad are only rare. Saphira said gently at the end. Eragon sighed. He could feel Saphira thinking he was being despondent these last few days, but he ignored her.
‘Good job, Roran,’ Eragon congratulated his cousin ‘we have gotten much further than he had thought. ‘Go, say hello to Katrina for me.’ Roran’s chest puffed like a rooster, when he strode out Eragon saw that darkness had reached Feinster, he shrugged, and he lay on his cot and drifted into his waking dreams. His mind becoming one with Saphira’s as her instincts where tempered with his.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 08:44 AM

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Chapter two:

Eragon heard foot steps across from his tent; Roran’s pungent smell wafted over Eragon in waves. It made his eyes water. Roran’s consciousness was still weak and Eragon was planning to start tutoring him about how to properly guard his mind [You say he was going to start the tutor, but Eragon already taught Roran how to do so before their raid on the Ra'zac. If anything, they're just continuing the lesson]. This was going to be a hard day.

Roran swept the tent flap open and strode inside. Eragon gestured towards the stool that he had made earlier and Roran sat down across from him.

Roran has a stubborn mind, Eragon thought, this will be hard.

Patience, little one, Saphira said. She sent waves of calmness through their connection. I know you can do it.

Thank you, Saphira, Eragon replied, gratefulness flowing through their bond, surging like a wave against Saphira’s calm intellect. With that she withdrew from his mind, a deer bringing her attention into scope.

Eragon looked at Roran, who returned the stare. An awkward silence pervaded the tent; it seemed to Eragon that it lasted forever.

‘Today, we will start again at sensing someone else’s mind, and block that mind eventually. I am going to enter your mind. Try hard to block me, Roran. I know you know how to do it.

Eragon sent a tendril of thought to Roran. He encountered a solid wall, this time it was based on Roran’s unborn child. Eragon tried his best to break the barriers that circled his cousin’s mind, and he tried squirming underneath, to no avail. This was a new league to Eragon. Not higher than him but nearly, with more training, better.

Roran’s concentration wavered when Eragon circled his consciousness. Eragon fit his mind into the crack and tore at Roran’s barriers like a feral dog. When Eragon opened his eyes, Roran was sweating from the concentration he used.

Eragon tutored him for hours, teaching him how to “think without thinking” as Oromis had put it. He even taught Roran a poem that was easy to concentrate on. Roran did not ask questions like Eragon had. He listened, learned, and then used that knowledge to the best of his abilities. Pride filled Eragon’s mind at this, just knowing he could teach gave him some hope that he would one day be worthy to fill his master’s place. Remembering his master gave Eragon strength, but when it was not strength, it was more the shadow of loneliness that seeped through his thoughts [This is a weirdly worded sentence].

Leave those thoughts be, Eragon! They only make us weaker! Remember the good things we had with him. The bad are only rare, Saphira said gently at the end.

Eragon sighed. He could feel Saphira thinking he was being despondent these last few days, but he ignored her.

‘Good job, Roran,’ Eragon congratulated his cousin. They had gotten much further than he had thought. ‘Go, say hello to Katrina for me.’

Roran’s chest puffed like a rooster. When he strode out Eragon saw that darkness had reached Feinster. He shrugged and then laid on his cot and drifted into his waking dreams. His mind became one with Saphira’s as her instincts were tempered with his.

You need to space out your paragraphs. Don't have huge clumps of texts like that. It makes reading a pain. When a new person is speaking, use a new paragraph.

Some of your sentences were run-ons. You need to know when to end it; don't drag it out longer than necessary.

Use italics when they are thinking or speaking with their minds. That way, it'd be easier to tell when they do so.

Also, personally, I think you overuse people's names. In the beginning of the chapter, you were constantly saying Roran and Eragon. Use other words like 'he', 'they', 'his cousin', and so forth.

Conscience is the ability to know right from wrong. The presence of the mind, so to speak, is conscious or consciousness. You're getting the two mixed up.

There was kind of a weird jump between chapters one and two. The way chapter one ended, it seemed like Eragon would return to his tent to tend to Arya. But the way chapter two began just doesn't fit with the ending of the previous chapter, in my opinion.

As for the story itself, I'm really not sure what to make of it. It's nice that you started it off differently than most fanfics, but it's kind of a boring start. There's nothing that really draws in my attention. In fact, the first two chapters seemed to be fillers, which, in my opinion, isn't a good way to start a book off.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 01:08 PM

I agree with bPhoniex, escpacially with the jump to Chapter 1 to Chapter 2. During the whole chapter Roran said nothing, I didn't like it.

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